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	<title>Comments on: Upgrading a netbook EFI install of Mac OS to 10.5.7</title>
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		<title>By: sllewji</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-2#comment-8914</link>
		<dc:creator>sllewji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies - The 10.5.7 Extensions folder got copied to the wrong place - I used Terminal from the install disk to relocate and all is now well.
Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies &#8211; The 10.5.7 Extensions folder got copied to the wrong place &#8211; I used Terminal from the install disk to relocate and all is now well.<br />
Ian</p>
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		<title>By: sllewji</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-2#comment-8913</link>
		<dc:creator>sllewji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stuart - I followed the intructions but the second reboot just leaves me with a completely blank grey desktop. The mouse cursor moves but no finder or any other app.

Any Ideas?
Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart &#8211; I followed the intructions but the second reboot just leaves me with a completely blank grey desktop. The mouse cursor moves but no finder or any other app.</p>
<p>Any Ideas?<br />
Ian</p>
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		<title>By: NSCXP2005</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-2#comment-7871</link>
		<dc:creator>NSCXP2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Stuart

Look forward for the tool. Just wondering do you have a time scale of when you will release the tool.

Thanks again

All the best

NSCXP2005</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Stuart</p>
<p>Look forward for the tool. Just wondering do you have a time scale of when you will release the tool.</p>
<p>Thanks again</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>NSCXP2005</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7870</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; use the Combo-updates, even on real Macs!  The Delta updates can leave file permissions incorrect so that running Verify/Fix Permissions from Disk Utility will always report errors, whereas the combo update doesn&#039;t have this problem.  My thinking is that if this isn&#039;t updated correctly, who knows what else might not be done properly with the Delta update.

(Admittedly, the answer is probably &quot;nothing&quot; - but using the Combo update isn&#039;t any great imposition - so I don&#039;t see any reason not to).

You&#039;ll also need to re-create/re-patch your drivers for 10.5.8 after installing the update but before rebooting.  I have an automated system to do this which I&#039;ve created for the 10.5.8 upgrade - but I&#039;d advise holding off for now, until things such as the Power Management problems are fixed.  Once the update seems safe, I&#039;ll upload this upgrade tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <i>always</i> use the Combo-updates, even on real Macs!  The Delta updates can leave file permissions incorrect so that running Verify/Fix Permissions from Disk Utility will always report errors, whereas the combo update doesn&#8217;t have this problem.  My thinking is that if this isn&#8217;t updated correctly, who knows what else might not be done properly with the Delta update.</p>
<p>(Admittedly, the answer is probably &#8220;nothing&#8221; &#8211; but using the Combo update isn&#8217;t any great imposition &#8211; so I don&#8217;t see any reason not to).</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll also need to re-create/re-patch your drivers for 10.5.8 after installing the update but before rebooting.  I have an automated system to do this which I&#8217;ve created for the 10.5.8 upgrade &#8211; but I&#8217;d advise holding off for now, until things such as the Power Management problems are fixed.  Once the update seems safe, I&#8217;ll upload this upgrade tool.</p>
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		<title>By: NSCXP2005</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7867</link>
		<dc:creator>NSCXP2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Stuart,

With the 10.5.8 update, did you do it from Software Update or Combo Update?
If Software Update, did you need any additional files for it to work?

Thanks for the response.

All the best

NSCXP2005</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Stuart,</p>
<p>With the 10.5.8 update, did you do it from Software Update or Combo Update?<br />
If Software Update, did you need any additional files for it to work?</p>
<p>Thanks for the response.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>NSCXP2005</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7864</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(To answer the question above: Sleep works when not running on mains power.  When plugged in, the machine will sleep but then immediately wake.  I&#039;m looking into a DSDT-based solution to this, but don&#039;t have anything definitive yet - the DSDT change needed doesn&#039;t only depend on the specific model of NC10 and what hardware is present (e.g. presence/lack of internal 3G), but also on what BIOS options are set.  This makes the production of any generic fix very difficult.

The problem with Deep Sleep/Hibernate has always been the mechanism by which the system dump is restored upon restart.  On non-Apple hardware, this is a boot-loader function rather than anything directly OS-related.  Unfortunately, with the first RC release of Chameleon 2 this didn&#039;t work properly.  I haven&#039;t tried with the most recent Chameleon update.

Given that my system uses a 30Gb SSD, having to write and then erase a 2Gb memory dump (almost 7% of the total capacity of the device) on every sleep seems to be enormously wasteful of write-cycles - so I&#039;m happy to stick to Suspend-To-RAM only.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(To answer the question above: Sleep works when not running on mains power.  When plugged in, the machine will sleep but then immediately wake.  I&#8217;m looking into a DSDT-based solution to this, but don&#8217;t have anything definitive yet &#8211; the DSDT change needed doesn&#8217;t only depend on the specific model of NC10 and what hardware is present (e.g. presence/lack of internal 3G), but also on what BIOS options are set.  This makes the production of any generic fix very difficult.</p>
<p>The problem with Deep Sleep/Hibernate has always been the mechanism by which the system dump is restored upon restart.  On non-Apple hardware, this is a boot-loader function rather than anything directly OS-related.  Unfortunately, with the first RC release of Chameleon 2 this didn&#8217;t work properly.  I haven&#8217;t tried with the most recent Chameleon update.</p>
<p>Given that my system uses a 30Gb SSD, having to write and then erase a 2Gb memory dump (almost 7% of the total capacity of the device) on every sleep seems to be enormously wasteful of write-cycles &#8211; so I&#8217;m happy to stick to Suspend-To-RAM only.)</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7863</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note to confirm that I&#039;m now successfully running 10.5.8, but am still checking it for problems.

Bluetooth, even after driver plist edits, doesn&#039;t work unless an SMBIOS override is also used to present a valid Machine Model (without which the Bluetooth daemon crashes due to attempting to insert a nil value - bad programming, I&#039;d suggest...).  With an SMBIOS override, bluetooth does work correctly - but historically using SMBIOS overrides with Chameleon 2 caused the processor speed to drop to it&#039;s lowest speed of 800MHz.  This doesn&#039;t appear to be the case with the latest Release Candidate, but I&#039;m still testing to confirm this.

More news as I get it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note to confirm that I&#8217;m now successfully running 10.5.8, but am still checking it for problems.</p>
<p>Bluetooth, even after driver plist edits, doesn&#8217;t work unless an SMBIOS override is also used to present a valid Machine Model (without which the Bluetooth daemon crashes due to attempting to insert a nil value &#8211; bad programming, I&#8217;d suggest&#8230;).  With an SMBIOS override, bluetooth does work correctly &#8211; but historically using SMBIOS overrides with Chameleon 2 caused the processor speed to drop to it&#8217;s lowest speed of 800MHz.  This doesn&#8217;t appear to be the case with the latest Release Candidate, but I&#8217;m still testing to confirm this.</p>
<p>More news as I get it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NSCXP2005</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7862</link>
		<dc:creator>NSCXP2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stuart,

Does your setup using your guide have Sleep and Hibernate working?

All the best

NSCXP2005</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart,</p>
<p>Does your setup using your guide have Sleep and Hibernate working?</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>NSCXP2005</p>
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		<title>By: NSCXP2005</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7821</link>
		<dc:creator>NSCXP2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, Cheers Stuart,

I look forward to them being featured in the EFI version of OSX in the future.

Thank you for your time

All the best

NSCXP2005</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Cheers Stuart,</p>
<p>I look forward to them being featured in the EFI version of OSX in the future.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>NSCXP2005</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7819</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Also note that with the NC10 release of Audieee, you can switch sound output to headphones, although this admittedly doesn&#039;t happen automatically.  I&#039;d say that Microphone input is the only completely absent function, sound-wise.  I&#039;d certainly like to see this fixed - but it&#039;s not something I regularly use)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Also note that with the NC10 release of Audieee, you can switch sound output to headphones, although this admittedly doesn&#8217;t happen automatically.  I&#8217;d say that Microphone input is the only completely absent function, sound-wise.  I&#8217;d certainly like to see this fixed &#8211; but it&#8217;s not something I regularly use)</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7818</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The VoodooHDA kernel extension I known not to work correctly: after resuming from sleep (and apparently even after just running for long periods), audio breaks up and becomes of very low quality - although this can be mitigated by moving the cursor around rapidly or by typing fast.  This makes me think that there&#039;s an interrupt-related problem here.  Even without this problem, the maximum volume with VoodooHDA is significantly lower than with AppleAzaliaAudio, and I would suggest isn&#039;t high enough even when set to maximum.

I think that what the Voodoo team is doing is fantastic, and I&#039;ll be happy to include VoodooHDA once it&#039;s finished - but I don&#039;t think that it&#039;s yet ready for the big-time.

I must that, after reading several reports of people having VoodooPS2Controller break on them, leaving them without input ability, I&#039;ve not tried it.  Having said that, testing it is on my list of things to do, so watch this space ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The VoodooHDA kernel extension I known not to work correctly: after resuming from sleep (and apparently even after just running for long periods), audio breaks up and becomes of very low quality &#8211; although this can be mitigated by moving the cursor around rapidly or by typing fast.  This makes me think that there&#8217;s an interrupt-related problem here.  Even without this problem, the maximum volume with VoodooHDA is significantly lower than with AppleAzaliaAudio, and I would suggest isn&#8217;t high enough even when set to maximum.</p>
<p>I think that what the Voodoo team is doing is fantastic, and I&#8217;ll be happy to include VoodooHDA once it&#8217;s finished &#8211; but I don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s yet ready for the big-time.</p>
<p>I must that, after reading several reports of people having VoodooPS2Controller break on them, leaving them without input ability, I&#8217;ve not tried it.  Having said that, testing it is on my list of things to do, so watch this space <img src='http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: NSCXP2005</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7815</link>
		<dc:creator>NSCXP2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stuart,

Does your driver pack for 10.5.7 have the following included?

Voodoo HDA-0.2.2 beta
VoodooPS2Controller

This would be excellent if it did, then I would have scrolling and tapping on my trackpad.

I would also have the mic and headphones working properly.

Please can you let me know

All the best

NSCXP2005</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart,</p>
<p>Does your driver pack for 10.5.7 have the following included?</p>
<p>Voodoo HDA-0.2.2 beta<br />
VoodooPS2Controller</p>
<p>This would be excellent if it did, then I would have scrolling and tapping on my trackpad.</p>
<p>I would also have the mic and headphones working properly.</p>
<p>Please can you let me know</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>NSCXP2005</p>
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		<title>By: NSCXP2005</title>
		<link>http://blog.stuart.shelton.me/archives/436/comment-page-1#comment-7774</link>
		<dc:creator>NSCXP2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Stuart, this really helped.

All the best

NSCXP2005</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Stuart, this really helped.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>NSCXP2005</p>
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